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Signs, Foreshadowing or just things to mess with us...?
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11/10/2017 - 9:19 pm

Joanne said
Cormoran’s White Horse

Reading some of these great ideas here—made me rethink my long held conviction that the ending of Career of Evil was really a very straightforward and settled situation. After all, on the last page JKR called Matthew, Robin’s “new husband”. There doesn’t seem to be any real wiggle room—pretty much a carved in stone statement of fact.

But there were two things brought up here that made me, for the first time really, think there might be a couple of cracks in that stone and maybe even a few rays of real light shinning through.

It will, of course, all depend on which of the many breadcrumbs Jo has left along the trail, will ultimately prove to be the real path going forward.

One of the ideas that was presented in this thread that has led me to consider at least tweaking my previous beliefs was the incident with Cormoran and Charlotte. Specifically her using her old tricks to manipulate Cormoran back to her by threatening to marry Jago unless Cormoran came back to save/rescue her from her self-imposed fate.

I agree that this seems to foreshadow Cormoran now being in the position to instead act as Robin’s “knight on a white horse” and save the woman he really loves from marrying the wrong man.

The other reason I think there might be a sliver of hope is because JKR has also set up parts of the Greek myth of Leda and the Swan that could be offering foreshadowing as well. She has definitely given Cormoran some of the same qualities that the mythical Leda’s immortal son Pollux (fathered by King of the Greek Gods, Zeus) possessed. (Cormoran’s father is the “rock god” Jonny Rokeby).

Mythical Leda had two sons—twins—but only half-brothers because they had different fathers. Castor, the mortal half-brother was the son of her Spartan King husband and Pollux, the immortal son of Zeus.

Leda Strike also has two biological sons, Cormoran and her son by her last husband, Jeff Whittaker (a son who is never really shown or talked about and who is far from being a twin to Cormoran since there’s a considerable age difference between the two).

It is for this reason that I think JKR may mean to use bits and pieces from this myth in the story but to have Cormoran and Shanker as the representatives of the two mythical sons of Leda.

I will try to explain what I mean by that statement. In the mythical story of Leda and the Swan—Leda is the Spartan Queen and both of her sons are known for their fame as cavalry soldiers (Sparta is after all a military state)—hence Cormoran’s military background and since Pollux is also known for his boxing skills—Cormoran’s background highlights his boxing skills.

White Horses also figure into the mythical half-brother’s story in a big way and, if JKR wants to use this aspect of the myth, it could possibly foreshadow an escape for the marriage dilemma.

In the Greek myth the two brothers want to marry the daughters of Leucippus (“White Horse”). Interestingly both the daughters are already betrothed to two cousins; so Castor and Pollux kidnap the two women and marry them. (A common occurrence it seems in ancient times.)

Even though there is only one betrothed woman in this story, Robin, I think that Shanker is definitely playing the part of Castor since he thought of Leda as his mother and he is close to Cormoran’s age and in these last scenes he is clearly playing the “horseman”/driver for his brother Cormoran/Pollux. So will there be a way he ends up spiriting (“kidnapping”) Robin and Cormoran back to London?? (Not saying this means they immediately become a couple—but she would definitely be going back to work for him).

Just a side note: Castor and Pollux were not only twins but so closely joined in brotherhood that when Castor was slain and Pollux, who was also in mortal danger, was saved by Zeus, he asked his father to instead let his brother share his immortality so he wouldn’t lose him.
Zeus said that would only be possible if he were willing then to share his brother’s mortality. Pollux agreed, so the brothers shared their eternity alternating between Olympus (heaven) and Hades (not heaven ;^) [Doubt Jo will go this far but something to keep in mind.]

The book Career of Evil ends with a basically frozen scene—all eyes waiting on how this plays out. Matthew is definitely aware that
Robin was looking at Cormoran when she said, “I do”. But he was alone in knowing the true danger of that moment when Cormoran appeared. The very thing he had tried to prevent had happened and his worse fear of exposure as the one who sabotaged Robin, was now, pretty much a foregone conclusion.

The ball is now in Matthew’s court and I personally don’t think there is a good way out for him, especially since he also knows his bride never smiled, until the moment she saw Cormoran.  

Thanks Joanne for sharing this with us! I hope you are also right and the myth is another sing that Robin's and Matthew's wedding wont be completed! I wish I knew what's going on in J.K Rowling's mind and what she intends to do with Robin's character!

I've said it before and I will say it again: For me Matthew's character has nothing more to give to the story! Until book three we found out 1. How little he values Robin 2. He doesn't respect her 3. Understimates her 4. Has cheated on her while she was in her worst moment 5. Obligated her to be some kind of friends with his ex mistress 6. He doesn't care if he hurts her if that means he will get what he wants (showing her the newspaper with Cormoran's add) and 7. How little he cares about what makes her happy (deleted things from her phone so she wouldn't had a chance to get back the work she loves doing) So what more can he do to her?
To keep him around only as an obstacle between Robin and Cormoran is not of my liking and I hope J.K Rowling is more creative if she wants to keep them apart for 1-2 more books!

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11/11/2017 - 12:17 pm

Joanne said
One of the ideas that was presented in this thread that has led me to consider at least tweaking my previous beliefs was the incident with Cormoran and Charlotte. Specifically her using her old tricks to manipulate Cormoran back to her by threatening to marry Jago unless Cormoran came back to save/rescue her from her self-imposed fate.

I agree that this seems to foreshadow Cormoran now being in the position to instead act as Robin’s “knight on a white horse” and save the woman he really loves from marrying the wrong man.

I also agree. And consider: this can be a thing that could really piss Charlotte off. If they (Robin and Cormoran) simply got together without a scene Charlotte would not necessarily suspect that this is something more, something special. After all, Cormoran has already had a girlfriend since Charlotte. OK, she may not know about that as they were hiding it because of Elin’s ex. (And because of C.) But Charlotte cannot possibly think that Cormoran has been living in chastity since their break-up more than a year ago. He used to have girlfriends between their previous breakups as well. And now he got famous because of his two previous cases, so Charlotte can think that women are attracted to him even more.
BUT, to do something that is so spectacular, and something she was fantasizing about, for another girl, is probably beyond all measures in her eyes. So, time to appear and start an elaborated revenge. We all agree that Ch will appear soon, don’t we? This could be a worthy event for her to start acting.

And yes, as you say, those many parallels with the myth of Castor and Pollux in the books up to this point also suggest that the wedding scene will be a continuation of it. I had a hard time to understand why Rowling took Robin to the wedding at all (instead of letting her leave Matthew for good) but maybe it was to be able to continue the parallels between Cormoran and Pollux and to give Charlotte really good reasons to get pissed off.

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